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Does anyone remember the Tech Rep from Hughes who walked into a Cobra tail rotor at Graf, it happened on the FARRP west of Camp AAchen, I was a armament mechanic on the Cobras and on the FARRP when it happened. I was just wondering if anyone else remembers it.

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I remember the incident, had to be fall of 84 or spring of 85, after getting out new M1 tanks.  I was at Graf at the time, one of 3/2s troops were on maneuvers (I don't remember which one), and I was driving the Squadron Commander (LTC Bird), when we heard the radio traffic.  At the time I thought "that's stupid how could someone not notice a running helicopter".  Years later, I became an aviation crewchief, and now understand how complacency probably contributed to the accident.  We worked around the outside of running aircraft, including the tail rotor, frequently.  Not a stupid mistake.  The tech was most likely focused on whatever task he was doing, probably tired, under pressure to get something fixed, and lost focus on the immediate situation.

I was with Air Troop in the Armt section. We ran the guns on the AH-1S (mz) as we called them back then. lol the Army changed the names for all the cobras in later years. Ed was our Tech Rep from Hughs. We were going through some issues with the M65 systems. We b=never used the first pad at the FARRP as it was to close to the Shop Van. I had talked to Ed before going to the ASP for more Ammo. As I was driving back into the FARRP I seen someone going from the Shop Van to the front seat on the left side of the acft. He was then directed to go to the Pilot in the back seat. In going aroaund the back of the acft he walked to close to the tail and was struck with the tail rotor. I was one of the fisrt to get to him. My Sgt at the time was Oski. I was just a PFC then. In all said and down he list fingers on his hand and his cheek. I was able to find the fingers and cheek but they couldn't re-attach them. He lived and came back to Feucht to say thank you.

Funny thing pj,

After active duty I joined the National Guard, I was in Aviation for over 20 years, I always remembered this story, but told it incorrectly everytime, I assumed the Tech was killed.  Good to hear he survived, sounds like you deserve some credit for saving his life. Good Job!

OBTW, do you remember a scout pilot named "Bone" (if my memory is correct)?  He was Swoop's pilot for a short time.  I remember an ice storm while we were at Graf, his crew chief defrosted the rotor blades with a ball-peen hammer, didn't turn out so well.  I don't remember the CEs name.

YES, remember Bone CW2 but could you make a statement of what you heard over the net, as i was at that FARRP for the 2nd ACR that day. I remember a bunch other other names for the 2nd ACR Air Troop. I can list them if needed.

Roger

But remember please

Connery, Daniel

Nov 2, 2020, 2:11 PM

to me

Roger,


Can you see if Mr. Kipferl is able to write up a statement confirming the incident involving Ed?  If he’s willing and able to do so, he can use the following form:  https://www.vba.va.gov/pubs/forms/VBA-21-4138-ARE.pdf

 

I believe we should include his statement in your appeal request, but we should also mention the recovery mission for the two individuals who were killed in Colorado.  I realize the incident involving Ed is what truly impacts you; however, the Colorado crash is definitely “verifiable” in the VA eyes. 

I have you down for a follow-up phone appointment on 12/15/2020 at 10am.  I WILL CALL YOU.  If you end up getting a statement back sooner, we can always bump your appointment up.

Take care,

Dan  

Daniel A. Connery
Veterans Service Director
Dane County Veterans Service Office
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Daniel, what do I need to do?

 

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 17:03 Roger B a href="mailto:redcatcher84@gmail.com">redcatcher84@gmail.com> wrote:

Now Daniel,

 

What do I need to do as this happened! It keeps me up at night and every night!

 

Roger

 

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