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Comment by Dave Gettman on December 19, 2016 at 7:00pm

Sig,

I ran into another Fertig in the enlistments this morning but forgot to write it down and can't find where it was.

Comment by Dave Gettman on December 19, 2016 at 6:57pm

Mark, that $20 bet got me to thinking about a story my mom told me. My dad, who was the post motor officer at Ft. Banks at the time, was drinking at our house with the post commander, and both of them being pretty lit, bet Col. Beavers $50 that he could get through the main gate without post tabs or ID.

My dad took off down the road on my tricycle, in full uniform, out the main gate and right back in with the stunned guard just standing there saluting. It wasn't long after dad got back to the house that the MP's showed up and tried to arrest him, but Col. Beavers talked them into letting him go.

Comment by Dave Gettman on December 19, 2016 at 6:42pm

That's one of the reasons I try to avoid crowded places, Joe. If some terrorist puke wants me, he's gotta come get me.

Comment by Frank L Moseley Jr on December 19, 2016 at 5:17pm

Good afternoon Troopers ... ..

A few Christmas Cards are in the mail.  I may not have a chance to get back on this week, so I want to take this time to Wish Everyone a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! or Hogmanay for those with Scottish background.

Hope you all have a great Holiday Season.

Enjoy the day, take care, stay warm!

Comment by Joseph Auger on December 19, 2016 at 5:08pm

Christkindlmarkt in Berlin just attacked,figured that was just a matter of time.

Comment by MARK PILLOW on December 19, 2016 at 3:38pm

Dave this is getting scary - the 1st Sgt at the time had formed a Goon Platoon of troopers waiting for their orders which is why Corp B put the heels on his boots. in a different time the story is the same - This was the 1st Sgt before 1st Sgt Hembree (a Saint and MOH Nominee/Recipient) Who stole a Jeep and Trailer at Hoenfels from Big Red One (forward) and got caught with it in the paint shop back at the Rock. It was a 20 dollar bet with the Regimental CSM but what got him in trouble is he dumped the trailers contents on a tank trail and it included a Stinger tracking Head Trainer and he wound up on the same Bird home with our Chaplin's Asst. and Company Clerk who were on their way to Leavenworth for a Train Robbery....I'm not making this up. The two kids had turned him in to the IG for running a Goon Platoon. Lord help if the IG had every found the buried ...never mind that for now though.

Comment by Sigmund Fertig on December 19, 2016 at 10:49am

Good morning troops, Monday at 0635, been up since 0545, cleaned up, read the word, exercised, now computer play time till the missus get's up. She doesn't sleep well so I make sure to let her sleep in if'n there ain't nuttin goin on. Dave, thanks for the enlistment records of people with the same last name. I know my grand parents were Polish Jews who immigrated from Germany so that's interesting, copied and enlarged and printed so I can put it in my scrapbooks from my tour over there , also will post it on my FB page so my family can see it, thanks again. All's well in So. Cal. and the mountains surrounding the Hemet/San Jacinto valley, Mt. San Jacinto and San Gorgonio are snow capped. San Gorgonio is the tallest MT. in the Southern California range at over 11,000 Ft. Elevation

Comment by Dave Gettman on December 19, 2016 at 8:32am

Mark,

My last day in the 2d Cav was somewhat similar to the story you just told. Tom Molino, my troop CO at the time and later 2d Squadron commander, 67th Colonel of the Regiment, long time 2d Cavalry Association president, and currently the Honorary Colonel of the Regiment, might remember this but I surely hope not.

C Troop was on the border at Camp Pitman. I was supposed to be out-processing, but I kept screwing around and missing my ride back to post so I could take care of my check list.

My ETS date came and went, and I was still on the border with no orders home. I was taken out of the barracks and put in a room at the end of a temporary building we were using for a PX, with a guy who was getting kicked out of the Army. I was assigned permanent CQ at night, and during the day when I wasn't sleeping I was cleaning kerosene stoves. It was like 4 weeks of punishment.

I thought it was because I hadn't cleared post, which may or may not had something to do with it, but it was really making up the bad time for when I was AWOL. Not knowing this, I had finally decided I'd had enough. I think the straw that broke the camel's back was having to fight my way into my room early one morning through about 20 guys waiting for their turn with my roommate's girlfriend.

So, one night on CQ I decided to take charge of my fate. The new squadron commander was coming through the next morning for an inspection. Next morning when the inspection team walked into the office I was sitting with my feet on the desk and hands behind my head. I snapped to attention and saluted, reporting with name and rank. Hadn't had a haircut or shave in a month. Fatigues, stained black from soot and buttons missing.

SCO went ballistic, demanding to know who the **** I was! All Tom could get out of his mouth was that I was the CQ, when I started handing out copies of a resignation I had spent the night typing. SCO bellowed at Tom that I had damn sure better be on my way to Frankfurt in the morning with orders even if he had to drive the jeep himself. Next morning a 2LT drove me to the airport. What happened at the airport was another adventure.

Comment by Dave Gettman on December 19, 2016 at 7:45am

Hey Sig,

Stumbled across these this morning. This guy ain't our 2d Cav and he's kinda tall, but might be worth checking out for the family tree. This 2d Cavalry is the regiment formed in 1855 and stationed in Texas until the Civil War. It became and still is the 5th Cavalry in late 1861.

FERTIG, Charles; enlisted: May 16, 1855, Louisville, by Capt. O’Hara; born: Frankfurt, Germany; age: 23 yrs; occupation: painter; hazel eyes, sandy hair, ruddy complexion, 6’0”; Company F, 2d Cavalry; discharged: May 16, 1860, Fort Mason, Texas, expiration of service; rank: private.

FERTIG, Charles; 2nd enlistment: September 7, 1860, St. Louis, Missouri, by Lieut. [illegible]; born: Frankfurt, Germany; age: 28 yrs; occupation: soldier; hazel eyes, sandy hair, ruddy complexion, 6’0”; Companies A and K, 3rd Infantry; discharged: September 7, 1865, Arsenal Barracks, Washington, D.C., expiration of service; rank: sergeant.

Ran across these two guys while checking out Charlie.

FERTIG, Franz; enlisted: October 24, 1854, Philadelphia, by Lieut. Burns; born: Barer, Germany; age: 21 yrs; occupation: miller; hazel eyes, dark hair, dark complexion, 5’8½”; Company F, 5th Infantry; died April 9, 1855, Fort McIntosh, Texas; rank: private.

FERTIG, George H.; enlisted: January 6, 1855, Newport, Kentucky, by Maj. Backus; born: Bavaria, Germany; age; 28 yrs; occupation: soldier; hazel eyes, black hair, dark complexion, 5’7”; Company D, 7th Infantry; discharged: January 6, 1860, Camp Floyd, Utah Territory, expiration of service; rank: private.

Comment by MARK PILLOW on December 18, 2016 at 6:14pm

Dear Dave - Perry Watkins LOLOL. I thought we had it bad. Theres just some stuff you can't tell a civilian cuz they'd think we were out of our minds. They just have no frame of reference. I got a call about 0330 one morning - a hang up call - and was told I should really really inspect my billets before anyone else did. I get there and the place is going nuts - an alert had been called while I was on my way in...Regimental Commander Couch is on my floor and started with my platoon - I had one trooper (good one too) waiting for his discharge to come through for aberrant sexual behavior, But it was held up cuz we had an Article 32 investigation going on the Orientation guy - Maj. Hart and the legal clerk was getting a court-martial too. So this Corporal decided he would move things along. He had glued high heels to his combat boots that he planned to wear to formation that morning. Nixed that. But by slight of hand he  had affixed a Polaroid to the door of his locker that featured him a Perry look alike in the act. Col. Couch almost spun his head off looking at LTC Richardson who did the same on my CO cpt Miller who just looked at the floor and shook his head. I understand he was on a west bound 747 by sundown. The rest of however endured a a purge that lasted 12 weeks and consisted of weekly white glove inspections.

 

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