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Comment by Dave Gettman on June 21, 2018 at 11:22am

WOO-HOO!!!! This has got to be one of my biggest eBay scores yet!!!

Tomorrow I will take possession of a ledger that was started in 1836 and continued until 1899, containing the names and information on every officer that served in the 2d Dragoons/2d Cavalry during that period and what happened to him.

I was authorized by the 2d Cavalry Association to bid for the ledger and they will pay me back for it ($543). Even better, I get to keep it and get all the information out of it. With the museum possibly closing down they want me to keep the ledger until they find out what is happening with the museum.

Comment by Frank L Moseley on June 20, 2018 at 5:23pm

We are ALL Veterans, having served our country. I served from 28 Sep 65 to 14 Dec 71.  Due to the time frame, I am a Vietnam Era or Cold War Vet. (as I did not go to Vietnam) I cannot join VFW, but have joined the American Legion.

Comment by harold goldstein on June 16, 2018 at 1:14pm

Harry, I'm going with Dave's definition. "...if you were awarded a campaign medal then you are a war veteran.  Here is an example....my dad's last deployment before retiring was to Thailand in 1969. This was during the Vietnam War and he was deployed in direct support of combat operations in Vietnam, but he was not in a combat zone and did not earn a campaign medal so he would not qualify as a war veteran for that particular deployment and would not be eligible to join the VFW based solely on that deployment."

Comment by harold goldstein on June 16, 2018 at 9:24am

Ernie, I researched the KWVA and they ARE accepting all Veterans as you said.  Most of all who served from 1950 -55.

That doesn't mean they were in Harms Way.  Then again, we were all in harms way if the Russians wanted to test us more than they did.

So, back to the facts.  If you did not earn a campaign medal you are not a war veteran.  

Dave, what about those in Korea that were in the rear; i.e., payroll, admistration, medics not in the front.

Comment by Dave Gettman on June 16, 2018 at 12:09am

Harold, I served during the Vietnam War but I DIDN'T serve IN Vietnam, so I'm a "Vietnam era Veteran". Also a Cold War veteran. But NOT a Vietnam veteran. Big difference

Pretty much boils down to, if you were awarded a campaign medal then you are a war veteran.

Here is an example....my dad's last deployment before retiring was to Thailand in 1969. This was during the Vietnam War and he was deployed in direct support of combat operations in Vietnam, but he was not in a combat zone and did not earn a campaign medal so he would not qualify as a war veteran for that particular deployment and would not be eligible to join the VFW based solely on that deployment.

Comment by Harry Warner on June 15, 2018 at 7:55pm

The cold war lasted long after the wall came down. I was wrong on both ends.  

Comment by Harry Warner on June 15, 2018 at 7:53pm
Comment by Harry Warner on June 15, 2018 at 7:48pm

Semantics is one of my most favorite words.  

Comment by Harry Warner on June 15, 2018 at 7:03pm

You want confusion? The Korean War is listed as a "conflict." War was never declared. 

Comment by ErnieKeel on June 15, 2018 at 6:40pm

Harold all sounds like semantics to me, and I agree Harry's definition of "war".   But, to add the confusion:  Isn't the Korean War "technically" still going on?  This is criteria to join Korean War Vet Assoc. : If you have EVER honorably served in Korea as a member of the U.S. Armed Forces September 3, 1945 to Present, or served outside of Korea June 25, 1950 to Jan. 31, 1955, you qualify to be a Regular Member of the Korean War Veterans Association, Inc.   This is from KWVA  website.

 

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