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Started by Jeff Jarriel. Last reply by Jeff Jarriel Aug 18, 2019.

That time the NAZI's invaded Camp Gates...in 1987

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Started by Jeff Jarriel. Last reply by MARK PILLOW Aug 16, 2019.

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Comment by MARK PILLOW on December 2, 2019 at 11:48am

The Regimental System, as it it was explained to my class in Officer Basic was a solution to PERSCOM practices and alleged favoritism. It was an issue for most of the class because we had been yanked from our chosen branches and detailed to Air Defense Artillery for the arrival of the Sgt york, yeah that York. In my efforts to weasel back into the eal Combat Arms I wrote the CDR of 2ACR and he replied to hurry up - that had a Frogfoot harassing Rotary wings. So the Regimental System was a great thing FOR ME.

never Mind THAT THE frog-foot MAKING GUN RUNS ON HELIOS WAS IN RESPONSE TO AIR CAV HAVING A Apple harvesting CONTEST...IN THE Czech republic. Just glad it all brought me to the unit.

Comment by Dave Gettman on November 30, 2019 at 11:27am

Thanks for clearing that up, Jeff. Whole lot different Army now than most of us served in.

Comment by Jeff Jarriel on November 30, 2019 at 9:52am

The Crest doesn't signify combat in the Unit and in fact you didn't (Dont) even have to serve in the Unit in order to wear the crest over your right pocket. Although I would say he probably served in the Unit. 

The Crest over your right pocket is your Regimental Affiliation. The Army changed the Regimental System to the Regimental Affiliation System back in the early 1980's. Once you were affiliated with a Regiment you wore that crest over your right pocket for the rest of your career. It was (and is) mandatory for a soldier, Officer and Enlisted, to select a Regimental Affiliation. 

I did not select a Regiment to Affiliate with and one was selected for me in 1982. For the next 18 years I wore the Crest of a Unit over my right pocket on my Class A's that I never served in. If someone were to see my records that didn't know, they would think I served in that Unit when, in fact,  I served in nine different Battalions and Squadrons plus USARMAC, but didn't serve one single day in my Regimental Affiliated Unit. 

The reason you may never serve in your regimental Affiliation is spelled out in the Reg, the Army (Branch) is supposed to make every effort to assign you to your Regimental Affiliation, but there are no guaranteed assignments. So you may never serve in your Regimental Affiliation. I didn't and am glad of it, not because there was anything wrong with the Units, but because they were never anywhere I wanted to go. 

There are only two times you can change your Regimental Affiliation, even if you have never served in the Unit. If the Regimental Affiliated Unit has completely stood down and folded colors, and if you Affiliated with an Airborne Unit and voluntarily terminate your Airborne Status. 

Everyone has two options for Regimental Affiliation,. you select your Regimental Affiliation from the list when you get to your first Unit, or you will be regimentally affiliated to your first Unit of Assignment. 

There are two options (Different Rules) for Officers. Basic Branch Combat Arms Officers affiliate with Branch Regiments, Armor, Infantry, Artillery and Functional Area Officers, Doctors, Scientists etc, who have no Basic Branch. 

If you look at Basic training Photo's, you will see soldiers, Privates, wearing their Regimental Affiliation in Basic. That is because they enlisted for a direct assignment option and already know what unit they are going to. Same as in the 70's and early 80's when they used to let you wear your future assignment patch before graduation. 

Another difference is the Crest is called two different things. The Crest you wear while in the Unit are called Distinctive Unit Insignia (DUI), the Crest you see on his jacket is called Regimental Distinctive Insignia (RDI). 

The RDI doesnt mean you actually served i the Unit, you would have to ask the soldier, is that your selected Regimental Affiliation or your first Unit of assignment? It certainly is not a Combat Award. 

And here is the chapter in the Reg stating how the RDI is worn. The Regimental Affiliation System has been around for 38 years, including my entire career with only a few minor changes. 

"(a) On the Army green, white, and blue uniforms, and the AG 415 shirt, males wear the RDI centered 1/8 inch above the top of the pocket flap, or 1/4 inch above any unit awards or foreign badges that are worn. When the coat lapel obscures the insignia, soldiers may wear the RDI aligned to the right edge of unit awards or the nameplate. Wear of the RDI on the AG 415 shirt is optional (see fig 28.140)."

Comment by Harry Warner on November 28, 2019 at 6:20pm

Ah, fughedaboudit.  

Comment by Shannon Ryan on November 28, 2019 at 6:11pm

Enjoy that egg nog Sig sounds really good

Comment by Sigmund Fertig on November 28, 2019 at 1:22pm

Although were having Thanksgiving at our daughters my dear wife Becky and grandson Dillon ( 16 ) have been cooking since yesterday AM, breads, yams, cranberries. And we found 5 bottles of the good egg nog in palm springs Tuesday eve. It's only produced by one dairy between Thanksgiving and New Years.

Comment by Sigmund Fertig on November 28, 2019 at 1:17pm

Shannon, we have a major storm, started yesterday will continue to Tuesday with a break Sat.

 Rain & snow in the higher Elev. Ski resorts in So Cal opened Monday !

Comment by Sigmund Fertig on November 28, 2019 at 1:15pm

Harry, that's South Joisey !

Comment by Dave Gettman on November 28, 2019 at 11:01am

Happy Thanksgiving everybody. Been up cooking pies since 0430.

Comment by Harry Warner on November 28, 2019 at 10:54am

From South Jersey, I join Shannon in wishing all a Happy Thanksgiving.  


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This was the third design of the 2d Cavalry DUI, worn from 1924-1931. The sharp points on the ends of the bottom scroll again called for a redesign.


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