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Open invitation to all who lived through or served during the cold war and can remember a world before computers.

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Since you asked... 4 Replies

Started by Jeff Jarriel. Last reply by Jeff Jarriel Aug 18.

That time the NAZI's invaded Camp Gates...in 1987

Started by Jeff Jarriel Aug 17.

Another Border Story. Almost accidental WWIII... 1 Reply

Started by Jeff Jarriel. Last reply by MARK PILLOW Aug 16.

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Comment by Dave Gettman 39 minutes ago

Can't shoot in the house anymore because of the wife's bird. He gets all excited and wants to shoot too.

Comment by Shannon Ryan yesterday

So Dave are you still using the indoor shooting range or have you moved it outside to the yard? 

Comment by Dave Gettman yesterday

Thank you, Brother. I've gotten better with it since then.

Comment by Shannon Ryan on Saturday

Nice grouping with that there air rifle Dave.

Comment by Dave Gettman on Friday

Lovin' this gun!!! Oh, what a sweet trigger. And accurate! If I could hold still I could probably hit the same hole every time. Or at least real close.

The bottom target is an eight-shot group. Both side targets are 4-shot.

Comment by Dave Gettman on Friday

Lookin' good, Frank. Yeah, low 40's is pretty chilly for the folks down there. Up here it rarely gets much warmer than that, today being one of those rare days. Might hit 50!!!

Comment by Frank L Moseley on Wednesday

Good Wednesday afternoon Fellow Troopers and Oldtimers,

I hope that everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving with lots of food, family and fun. We spent the afternoon with our oldest daughter and her family. My Son was there too. Turkey and the usual trimmings, Cherry and Pumpkin pies for dessert.

Finally getting some COLD (for us) temperatures. Lows in the low 40s and Highs in the mid to upper 60s. Some 70s by this weekend.

Wishing y'all the Merriest Christmas and Holiday Season!  Toujours Pret!

Comment by MARK PILLOW on December 2, 2019 at 11:48am

The Regimental System, as it it was explained to my class in Officer Basic was a solution to PERSCOM practices and alleged favoritism. It was an issue for most of the class because we had been yanked from our chosen branches and detailed to Air Defense Artillery for the arrival of the Sgt york, yeah that York. In my efforts to weasel back into the eal Combat Arms I wrote the CDR of 2ACR and he replied to hurry up - that had a Frogfoot harassing Rotary wings. So the Regimental System was a great thing FOR ME.

never Mind THAT THE frog-foot MAKING GUN RUNS ON HELIOS WAS IN RESPONSE TO AIR CAV HAVING A Apple harvesting CONTEST...IN THE Czech republic. Just glad it all brought me to the unit.

Comment by Dave Gettman on November 30, 2019 at 11:27am

Thanks for clearing that up, Jeff. Whole lot different Army now than most of us served in.

Comment by Jeff Jarriel on November 30, 2019 at 9:52am

The Crest doesn't signify combat in the Unit and in fact you didn't (Dont) even have to serve in the Unit in order to wear the crest over your right pocket. Although I would say he probably served in the Unit. 

The Crest over your right pocket is your Regimental Affiliation. The Army changed the Regimental System to the Regimental Affiliation System back in the early 1980's. Once you were affiliated with a Regiment you wore that crest over your right pocket for the rest of your career. It was (and is) mandatory for a soldier, Officer and Enlisted, to select a Regimental Affiliation. 

I did not select a Regiment to Affiliate with and one was selected for me in 1982. For the next 18 years I wore the Crest of a Unit over my right pocket on my Class A's that I never served in. If someone were to see my records that didn't know, they would think I served in that Unit when, in fact,  I served in nine different Battalions and Squadrons plus USARMAC, but didn't serve one single day in my Regimental Affiliated Unit. 

The reason you may never serve in your regimental Affiliation is spelled out in the Reg, the Army (Branch) is supposed to make every effort to assign you to your Regimental Affiliation, but there are no guaranteed assignments. So you may never serve in your Regimental Affiliation. I didn't and am glad of it, not because there was anything wrong with the Units, but because they were never anywhere I wanted to go. 

There are only two times you can change your Regimental Affiliation, even if you have never served in the Unit. If the Regimental Affiliated Unit has completely stood down and folded colors, and if you Affiliated with an Airborne Unit and voluntarily terminate your Airborne Status. 

Everyone has two options for Regimental Affiliation,. you select your Regimental Affiliation from the list when you get to your first Unit, or you will be regimentally affiliated to your first Unit of Assignment. 

There are two options (Different Rules) for Officers. Basic Branch Combat Arms Officers affiliate with Branch Regiments, Armor, Infantry, Artillery and Functional Area Officers, Doctors, Scientists etc, who have no Basic Branch. 

If you look at Basic training Photo's, you will see soldiers, Privates, wearing their Regimental Affiliation in Basic. That is because they enlisted for a direct assignment option and already know what unit they are going to. Same as in the 70's and early 80's when they used to let you wear your future assignment patch before graduation. 

Another difference is the Crest is called two different things. The Crest you wear while in the Unit are called Distinctive Unit Insignia (DUI), the Crest you see on his jacket is called Regimental Distinctive Insignia (RDI). 

The RDI doesnt mean you actually served i the Unit, you would have to ask the soldier, is that your selected Regimental Affiliation or your first Unit of assignment? It certainly is not a Combat Award. 

And here is the chapter in the Reg stating how the RDI is worn. The Regimental Affiliation System has been around for 38 years, including my entire career with only a few minor changes. 

"(a) On the Army green, white, and blue uniforms, and the AG 415 shirt, males wear the RDI centered 1/8 inch above the top of the pocket flap, or 1/4 inch above any unit awards or foreign badges that are worn. When the coat lapel obscures the insignia, soldiers may wear the RDI aligned to the right edge of unit awards or the nameplate. Wear of the RDI on the AG 415 shirt is optional (see fig 28.140)."

 

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This was the third design of the 2d Cavalry DUI, worn from 1924-1931. The sharp points on the ends of the bottom scroll again called for a redesign.

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