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Comment by Stephen (STEVE-O) Bowen on November 20, 2009 at 12:03pm
Congress did away with all Berets in '78.It was a HUGE thing here in NC,because of Ft. Bragg, there was a Post-wide Burial Ceremony. For a while I thought they were going to storm Washington.
Comment by Mike Kultgen on November 20, 2009 at 11:58am
Dave, the same thing happened to myself and some other Cav Troopers at the Fort Dix out-processing station in '74. We caught hell for wearing unauthorized headgear from some cadre there. We told them that we had already turned in our bus-driver hats and cunt caps and we ain't going to the PX and buying new ones as we were only hours away from getting out. Mike
Comment by Dave Gettman on November 20, 2009 at 11:42am
We were still wearing the pile caps in the mid 1970's, but the tie string on the Korean War surplus hats had been updated with velcro and the fleece lining had been done away with. Once in awhile one of the old tie caps would show up. I remember our M88 driver, Les Paul (not the Les Paul of electric guitar fame) had one that looked like it was left over from WW II.

I believe the black berets started in the late 1960's (1968??) or early 1970's and went out between 1978-81 when "The Dueler" had the Regiment. The berets had never been authorized by the Army so we always got crap for wearing them by visiting IG's and stuff. Had my heels locked in an airport one time and told I was going to be written up for being out of uniform if I didn't come up with some proper headgear, STAT!! I didn't, and I wasn't. Felt real funny lecturing this Major on border Cav with a major case of the puckers going on and his nose in my ear.
Comment by James F. Burgos on November 20, 2009 at 10:04am
To all of you troopers who wore Berets, I have a question. Back in the 60's we wore ball caps in Summer and Pyle ( pile ? ) caps in Winter. Those caps resembled the Russian Winter headgear. way cool. Did you guys ever wear Pyle caps ?
Comment by Warren C. Wagner on November 19, 2009 at 8:06pm
I like your ashtray Dave. Wish I'd kept some of the stuff from back then. But my house is still full of bleikristall, Hummels and other German crunk my wife and her mother brought back from multiple shopping trips to Weiden, Marktredwicz and elsewhere in FRG.
Comment by Mike Kultgen on November 19, 2009 at 7:35pm
When and why did the Black Berets get phased out? I was there when they were authorized for wear by the 2nd ACR and the 11th ACR. Mike
Comment by Dave Gettman on November 18, 2009 at 10:58am
Ranger Pete was my first troop commander at C Troop. After he retired as Commanding General of Delta Force, President Bush brought him out of retirement to be Chief of Staff of the Army. Toujours Pret!!!

Never got the boots or knife, but I got the Rod & Gun Club ashtray. Does that count for anything?

Comment by Stephen (STEVE-O) Bowen on November 18, 2009 at 2:17am
Berets went out about 3 months before I got to Bamberg,although we still had to drink a liter out of one to be a "Real Trooper" Khakis were also phased out, to me they were the sharpest uniform we had.That Green Crap they have now has no panache.
Comment by Bo Baker on November 18, 2009 at 2:09am
still using berets in '74-'76- no tankers jackets then, windproofed our field jackets buy starching them, really sucked after they got wet enough!
Comment by Stephen (STEVE-O) Bowen on November 18, 2009 at 2:02am
Got my German Jump Boots, used a whole can of Mink Oil on them. Waterproofed, never had to use rubber.over shoes or those friggin' Mickey Mouse Boots. I bought 2 more pairs of soles,had them til 93, about the best $35 I spent.

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7th Colonel of the Regiment John P. Hatch

26 June 1881 - 9 January 1886



This was the third design of the 2d Cavalry DUI, worn from 1924-1931. The sharp points on the ends of the bottom scroll again called for a redesign.


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