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Comment by Dave Gettman on March 8, 2011 at 1:02pm
Sorry James, I didn't mean that I was that exact Trooper, I just meant I was in the same situation, just a few years later (1974).
Comment by James F. Burgos on March 8, 2011 at 12:42pm
Dave, Dave, Dave.  Didn't I just say that I had some BEAUTIES come across my desk ?  Seriously though, that one couldn't have been YOU . At that time the Sheridan was just coming on line and we still had the old M60 A1 MBT.  Wait a minute !  We were scheduled to get the Sheridan but I left before the the change took place.  If that WAS you, do remember the large Peace Symbol on my desk ??????
Comment by Harry Warner on March 8, 2011 at 12:26pm
Referring to what Todd said earlier about enlistees getting choice of MOS, there was also the "promise" of permanent duty station.  Mine was Hawaii.  Nuff said about that.  I was all ready to learn the hula.
Comment by Sigmund Fertig on March 8, 2011 at 11:57am
Border Patrol may have a larger group but OT's are the best! You guys are great! Keep up the chatter! Speakin of chatter, any of you watchin old Charlie Sheen run off at the mouth, the guy is on something!
Comment by James F. Burgos on March 8, 2011 at 11:53am
Todd, how right you are but you couldn't always go by the TO&E .  On paper, you were one thing, what you really did was something else entirely.  When I made Spec. 5 there was no slot for me in HQ Trp.   I was transferred to I Trp. , given the slot of Auto. Rifleman ( 11B20 )  and attached to HQ Trp. but I never really went anywhere !  Our poor Courts and Boards Clerk !  Our Sqdn. C.O. wanted a " hard rock " NCO as clerk.  So, ON PAPER, he was turned into an 11B40, Infantry Squad Leader.  He was a paper pusher, like the rest of us clerks. A couple of months after his MOS change, his NAME came down on Vietnam Levy !  He was sent to the ' Nam as INFANTRY !  ( 196th light Infantry )  To this day, I wonder if he made it home. 
Comment by Stephen (STEVE-O) Bowen on March 8, 2011 at 11:38am
I started out as a 98C-Signal Intelligence Cryptological Analyst, with w TS-Special Background Investigation Clearance. After 11 weeks of the 13-week school, I couldn't take being locked in a room with no windows and 1 door for 8 hours at a time and dropped on request.With my clearance,I was supposed to stay in the MI field-Language School,Photo Interpreter,but Dear ol' Uncle had a shortage of Forward Observers, so off to Fort Sill I went.I'm still headed to Germany,and I am supposed to be stationed far from the Border. So, when I get to the Reppo-Depo the personnel Specialist takes my paperwork looks at and says "Aw man- you're goin' to the Cav."The only 13F with a TS-SBI clearance in the Army on the East German-West German Border. Wouldn't have traded it for the World!
Comment by Dave Gettman on March 8, 2011 at 11:22am

Hey James,

I was that E-3 anti-aircraft missile radar mechanic. When the AAA unit in Hanau found out I didn't even know what a Hawk Missile was (and after I went AWOL - long story), they sent me to the 2d Cav, which was my actual MOS - 11E20R9 Sheridan crewman.

Comment by Todd R. Melcher on March 8, 2011 at 11:05am
Back then choice of ttraining was an enlistment option. You were actuall promised the MOS training of your choice, if you qualified. However upon assignment to your TOE unit, you became whatever the Army needed at the time. Therefore, there were alot of rocket scientist and high speed widget repairmen serving as 11 Bush straight leg infantry.
Comment by James F. Burgos on March 8, 2011 at 10:51am
" Dumping Ground. "  " didn't know what else to do with. "   Todd and R.C. , you hit the nail right on the head !  As some of you may recall, I worked Squadron Personnel from Jan. '68 through July '69.   During the Vietnam War you should have seen some of the replacements that came into the Squadron !  It was my job to put these guys into slots on the TO&E.  I really had some BEAUTIES!   What do I do with a Spec. 4, Water supply specialist just in from Greenland ?  Or an E-3 Anti Aircraft Missile Radar Mechanic ?   Or, hold onto your hat, a slick sleeve just out of Leavenworth who killed 8 G.I.'s in Vietnam when he flipped out.  ( NOBODY WANTED THAT ONE )  Usually the only slots available were " Ammo Handler "  for the tanks.  ELEVEN ECHO was the usual assignment.  If the Spec. 4's gave me any lip I would just say "  you learn the job OJT, like everyone else. "  The same thing happened to my brother.  He spent MONTHS training at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Md. to be a tank mechanic.  When he got to Vietnam, he wound up in a supply depot.  That was the Army during the ' Nam.  
Comment by Harry Warner on March 7, 2011 at 7:21pm

Hey Wayne,

We'll see how this looks.


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Colonels of the Regiment

8th Colonel of the Regiment Nelson B. Sweitzer 9 Jun 1886 – 29 Oct 1888



This was the third design of the 2d Cavalry DUI, worn from 1924-1931. The sharp points on the ends of the bottom scroll again called for a redesign.


Machine Gun Troop, 2d Cavalry; Adjutant General.

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